Message to the Venezuelan Opposition: Sorry, Suckers (Update: Uh, er, Chavez loses)
Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez attends a campaign rally in the Andean state of Tachira November 28, 2007. (Ho-Miraflores Palace/Reuters) By Justin Delacour
November 29, 2007
[Editor's Note: Well, when you live by the sword, you die by the sword, so I'm sure I'll be getting some well-deserved lickings in the comments section of this thread. So have at it, folks. I know, I'm the "sucker" now. I'll just take my lickings in silence. Oh, and one more thing. I was just informed tonight that the interview that Reuters published with Datanalisis director Luis Vicente Leon came from a couple months prior to the date they published the interview (November 28). So, as it turns out, Leon did not say Chavez would probably win 60-40 immediately after his firm had reported that the opposition was leading 49-39. This was Reuters' mistake for not clarifying that the interview had taken place some two months prior to Reuters' publication of it. Nevertheless, I take full responsibility for my own mistaken projection here. So go ahead, folks, have at it.]
Anyone who knows anything about Venezuelan polling knows that the pollster Germán Campos does not mess around. Every electoral projection I've seen from him has proven accurate. In fact, of all his electoral projections that I've seen, none has overestimated Chavez's margin of victory.
Unlike the rest of Venezuela's pollsters, Campos understands the basic principle that partisan politics and political polling do not mix. (As you might have recognized by now, I could never get into the business of polling because I wear my politics on my sleeve, just as Venezuela's opposition pollsters do).
If Campos has the "Yes" campaign up by 16 points among likely voters, you can pretty much rest assured that "No" is going down.
The problem right now is that a number of openly opposition pollsters appear to be cooking their numbers in favor of the "No" campaign so as to either increase opposition turnout in the Sunday referendum or to lay the groundwork for claims of "fraud" in the aftermath of another impending defeat. For some time, the concern among the opposition pollsters has been that some in the opposition's ranks would abstain from the vote. Thus, the strategy of the opposition pollsters is to fluff their numbers at the last minute so as to either boost morale among their ranks (and thereby boost their side's turnout) or to lay the groundwork for claims of "fraud." We can get a glimpse of what's happening by contrasting Datanalisis' cooked numbers with what the firm's director actually says about the probable outcome of the vote.
Of course, not all the opposition pollsters would be employing such an unethical strategy if Chavez's advantage were as great as it was in, say, the 2006 presidential race. Some opposition pollsters are doing this because they think they can make it a close race and thereby boost the opposition's long-term political prospects in the process. Indeed, Chavez's side will not win by as large of a margin as he did in the 2006 presidential election. (Chavez won 63 percent of the vote in that election).
Nevertheless, in all likelihood, Chavez's side will win. For the most part, Chavistas will not cross over to the other side in a vote on the constitutional reforms because the base of the "No" campaign is much more repellent to most Chavistas than whatever problems some might see in the reforms.
Moreover, the opposition needs to learn some basic math. As Bloomberg recently reported, Venezuela has now undergone fifteen straight quarters of robust economic expansion. I doubt very seriously that any Latin American population would vote against a sitting government that has overseen fifteen straight quarters of robust economic expansion. Amidst such propitious socio-economic conditions, governments don't lose political fights.
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What a media blitzkrieg! If one were just to read the NY Times, WaPo and the BBC, one would think Chavez is skinning babies alive on every street corner.
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Oh, I know. The level of propaganda in the U.S. press right now is completely over the top.
Have you seen this piece of research or is this another propaganda post based on stuff someone else published.
Suckers! I thought you were a non interventionist.
Propagandist
Justin,
Many thanks for your informative posts. Just one thing. I don't see ay mention of Operación Tenaza on your blog, Why is that?
WOW. Oposition is really amazing:
http://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=EqVqNDcyC44&eurl=http://thehrf.org/
Have you seen this piece of research or is this another propaganda post based on stuff someone else published.
I'm not sure as to what you're suggesting. The fact that Datanalisis is cooking numbers for one audience (the Venezuelan opposition) and then telling Reuters the exact opposite (i.e. that Chavez will probably win 60-40) is a pretty clear indication that the opposition pollsters are trying to pull a fast one here.
Suckers! I thought you were a non interventionist
I take no position on the constitutional reforms themselves. I stand with Lula on that question. Non-Venezuelans need to respect the sovereignty of Venezuela and let the Venezuelans decide for themselves whether they want these reforms or not.
But you are indeed a "sucker" if you swallow what the opposition pollsters are telling you. This is one of the most unethical displays of poll-cooking I've seen from Datanalisis since the August 2004 Recall Referendum.
Chavez is skinning babies alive on every street corner
He not only skins them alive, but eats their guts live on his weekly television show!
Well I don't care for DATANALISIS either. I care about your meddling into my country's affairs without having a clue of what's actually going on.
Digame algo, Senior Anonymous. Do you have a problem with:
National Endowment for Democracy (NED)
International Republican Institute
American Center for International Labor Solidarity
USAID Office for Transition Initiatives
Development Alternatives, Inc.
Peter Ackerman and Jack DuVall's "International Centre on Non-Violent Conflict (ICNC)"
Gene Sharp and Robert Helvey's "Albert Einstein Institution"
just to name a few of the US based organizations who have spent muliplied millions over the past nine years "meddling in your country" without having a clue about what is going on. They clearly dont have a clue because the Bolivarian Revolution has been kicking their ass for nine long years and will kick it again tomorrow.
Tell me something else. Why do you think these organizations are spending that kind of money "meddling in your country"? Let me tell you, it is because they are trying to take over your country. They are trying to screw you. Why do you want to get screwed by the USA?
I do Jesus del Norte. All of those institutions have been very negative for Venezuela. I have a bigger problem with Chavez.
I care about your meddling into my country's affairs without having a clue of what's actually going on.
Meddling? I'm not meddling. I'm just telling you that your side's pollsters are looking to pull a fast one here.
Believe it or not, I've been following your side's pollsters for quite some time now, and the fact of the matter is that they're all really shady.
But as far as whether Venezuelans pass the constitutional reforms or not, that's for the people of your country --only the people of your country-- to decide.
"In the bag", eh?
Guess not. Better luck next time.
Justin,
Who is the sucker now?
You owe an apology to your readers if you expect to keep any.
Pleas explain today's official results. They are 15% off your numbers and in the opposite direction. I know, it was fraud!
You have to create a new post in big red letters saying "I am the sucker". along with some photos of the happy opposition.That would do it :)
Opposition won. Chavez looking stupid. Nothing new.
Next time voters will look more carefully at what Chavez wants.
Still no milk on the store shelves. Chavez will say that if they wanted milk, they should have voted for his constitution.
"Fifteen straight quarters of robust economic expansion" and yet there's very little food!
You Chavez lovers will buy any line of bullshit.
You Chavez lovers also love to blame Venezuela's problems on the US.
You guys need to learn the concept of personal responsibility.
"Fifteen straight quarters of robust economic expansion" and yet there's very little food!
You Chavez lovers will buy any line of bullshit.
Uh, that bit about "fifteen straight quarters of robust economic expansion" is from that oh-so-revolutionary newswire Bloomberg, owned by that oh-so-revolutionary billionaire Michael Bloomberg.
So I'm afraid you might have a tough time passing that one off as a Chavista "conspiracy theory."
Secondly, the notion that "there's very little food" in Venezuela is rather silly. Why don't you check the data on caloric intake and get back to us about it?
Having said that, there are some shortages of basic staples like milk (although my understanding is that there is still plenty of powdered milk to go around). This undoubtedly doesn't make people happy, so the government will obviously need to get on the ball on that score.
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